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Manifold Build


I decided after my adapter broke, I might as well just build a manifold. So I started thinking about a design. I'm studying engineering but a degree wont just build a good manifold. Its more experience and lots of testing that will get a good manifold. So I started looking at F1 manifolds and other race cars to see what they do. I think BMW has it figured out on this engine



Its a 1.5liter that can make 1300hp. I noticed most manifolds have cylinders that are 180 degrees apart in firing order equal length, they're staright as possible and have a short collector. One thing I did learn from school though is that you want to have the largest temperature difference as possible across the turbine (change in enthalpy) so shorter is better in terms of spool up but once its spooled and there is energy beeing bypassed the heat issue is much less important. I know there is so much more that goes into manifold design but since this is the first one I'm building, I'm just going to build it. From planning it out, its going to be equal length in 1+4 and 2+3, short as possible and probably a top mount flange. I'll be posting some pictures of the progress.



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i'm definately looking forward to seeing the end product!

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u need a serious welder and skill or .... crack

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sweet, exited to see some results jon! oh and since you are so worried about spool you should focus on short runners to take advantage of the enthalpy change. we know it will keep spooling up top.

but really i would just try to make it as reliable as possible as my #1.

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superdewey58 wrote:

u need a serious welder and skill or .... crack



man I picked up a welder at Wal-mart. I can straight lay some bead


Actually, I'm just tacking it all together. My friend will be finish welding it.

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thats what i did... homemade log ftw.

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superdewey58 wrote:

thats what i did... homemade log ftw.



I wouldnt mind seeing that homemade log. any pics of it?

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got most of it done today. 3 runners and the collector. The collector was definately the hardest part. A bandsaw would have been reallly nice. I spent lots of time grinding but it came out decent. The runners werent too hard. It took alot of testing and breaking it apart to get it right. And I only welded the flange upside down one time. Pictures.

started with this





ended up with this



collector: slightly off





And it came out to be exactly enough pipe and bends. I took my last piece of pipe, cut it in half and it fit perfect (kinda)

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not bad. so whens it going to be finished and on your car? this wednesday hopefully?

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dude, thats looking really good. cant wait to see it on the car at fixx fest!!

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i recognize those elbows


homemade ftw



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you still have AC? thats weak man... lol

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Nice dude. Yea looks like the same bends.

Whats that weld behind the dipstick in the picture? external gate?

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yea external gate... here a messy picture of it




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Manifold is done. Here's some pictures from the progress

Everything tacked up. as you can see I ran short on pipe so I pieced it together there. Kinda ghetto



After Josh welded everything up. Looks alot better



Everything installed after the test drive. The runners turned that awesome stainless color. Sick





Runs awesome! Spools alot better and its fun

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took a ride in it and that thing pulls pretty good with 4 ppl. i'm waiting for the track times.

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i just wrapped my manifold in heat wrap, super effective i reccomend that

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you rollin like me now jon? with sensors hangin out all over the engine bay, lol i should start a CEL Crew in addition to the no a/c crew!



-- Edited by turbocivic at 20:28, 2006-10-30

-- Edited by turbocivic at 20:29, 2006-10-30

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always good to have a spare right where you need it

I think I could be in the CEL Crew. I've got like 17 codes

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can i join the cel and no ac crew? maybe even the broken motors/turbos crew.

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im in the broken turbo crew!


 


t3 killa fo life



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I think Viet can be the presdident of the broken Motor, turbo and A/C club. 2 motors, 3 turbos and no A/C for a few years

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lol

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