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Mr. Roll Bar


Well i've been looking into roll bar legality and whatnot for our little project.  quick summary is its going to cost us, auto-x rules are easy and everything else isnt (require full cages and $$$$).  i checked one place online that gave me 20ft of 1.75" .095wall DOM tubing for 85 bucks (you dont want to know the shipping, hehe) we can contact local companies when its time


Assuming we probably wont do much more that autox and some HPDE track events this shouldnt be a big deal. 


Autox rules are vague so i went up a step to the scca ProRacing regulations to get info on stuff like tubing sizes and whatnot. 


 


Mounting Plates


-no less than .080" thick


-Max area of 144 sq. in. (couldnt find a min area)


-plates may be multi dimensional


 


Material


-seamless or DOM, mild steel


-no ERW tubing


-3/16" inspection hole in non-critical area required


-gussets recommended at all joints


-radius of all bends must be no less than 3x the diameter of the tubing


-all tubing subject to driver contact must be padded


heres the info i found on tubing size. turns out we should only need 1.75" .095 wall tubing



weight measured as raced minus driver and fuel


 


Main Hoop


-Must be full width and continuous


-must have smooth bends with no signs of walls collapsing


-must remain in one plane


-be as cloe to the roof as possible


-must have a diagonal to prevent lateral distortion


 


Rear Braces


-Must be attached to the main hoop not more than 6" from top of hoop


-must make at least 30deg angle


 


 


 


 


 


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Definitions of DOM tubing on the Web:



  • Drawn Over Mandrel. Formed from strips and electric-resistance welded, then cold drawn to size. The cold drawing process causes the weld line to virtually disappear and gives the tubing it strength by cold working and allows consistent dimensions and tolerance. The carbon content also gives DOM (1020 or 1026) better mechanical properties than regular ERW tubing.
    www.desertrides.com/reference/terms.php


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we should get started on the cage. then we can build everything else around that (like a seat and dash)

this site shows the harbour freight pipe bender to bend the bars.
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/rollcage.htm
you have anything left at harbour freight jamin? you should get that then we can build the cage and do exhausts on the side for project money

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alright who wants to open up photoshop and do that so we can see what it looks like

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Yeah, so last night I welded in a roll cage for a DSM. Tottally not fun. I got burns all over my legs, and my welder tip kept getting clogged. Talk about the most unfun thing I ever did.

So get a bolt in damn it.

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Raoul Duke wrote:

Yeah, so last night I welded in a roll cage for a DSM. Tottally not fun. I got burns all over my legs, and my welder tip kept getting clogged. Talk about the most unfun thing I ever did.

So get a bolt in damn it.




orrrr find somewhere to rent a tig welder, and do it up. if there is such a place as a tig welder rent-all...which i doubt..

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Raoul Duke wrote:

Yeah, so last night I welded in a roll cage for a DSM. Tottally not fun. I got burns all over my legs, and my welder tip kept getting clogged. Talk about the most unfun thing I ever did.

So get a bolt in damn it.



you should wear pants


did you draw that picture jamin?

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haha, i never got that far into planning my dream e30......

just found that in one of my random bimmerforums visits.

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