Jon's Plans

A4seen Racer · VP

Jon's Plans

LOUMO · Because HOMO was taken

Ok well in order to do the 1,2,3, and 4 you are not gonna be able to do 5. If you wanna carry more than 2 people wby would you strip down the car? Second if you wanna do those things making the audi into a VR6 is not gonna get you there and on top of the forced induction makes for a even more unreliable vr6, trust me i had one and i am glad i sold it. I love that motor more than anybody on this forum and that is a fact but the truth is it sucks. Now i see you getting further in something more like a real race car.....maybe a ITA car or a showroom stock car??????

· 1995 Dodge Neon ACR
· 10,071 original miles, all race miles
· Bolt-in Roll Cage with welded dual sidebar
· Full SSC Spec Line Trunk Kit installed
· Adjustable Koni Struts
· Cut-off switch
· Switched Cool-Shirt circuit to Trunk (Cool Shirt system not included)
· Fire Suppression System

This car was an original Neon Challenge car raced at charity events around the country.

I bought it and raced it in SSC. This car was never street driven. Car runs excellent and is a reliable drive.

I just got another SSC car so this has to go $4500 including 8 wheels and spares below:
SPARES INCLUDE: 4 RAIN TIRES MOUNTED (NEW KUMHO V700S FULL-TREAD) 6 HUBS, 2 KNUCKLES, 2 AXLES, COIL PACK, PLUG WIRES, 4 USED ROTORS + CARBOTECH PADS, O2 SENSOR, ROCKERS, SWAY LINKS + BRACKETS, FRONT BUMPER, BRAKE PISTON, ALT. BELT, RAD. HOSE, STOCK PARTS (MUFFLER, SEAT, AIR BAGS). Currently Kumho 710's are mounted on the car.

$3500 with no spares or extra wheels

Could be good DSP autocross car. Would need ITA or Spec Neon updates to be competitive in those racing classes -

Call me crazy but that is a good deal and I really dont think this is a good idea. You are a good driver and i wouldnt let just anybody take my car on a race track. I dont want to watch you waste your time and money on that damn audi. I know exactly whats gonna happen you are gonna do this and when it comes time to do a track day you are gonna be stuck in the pits fixing some stupid problem that you are having with the car.

So with that said I think this is about as dumb as driving 4000 miles away from home to buy a al-trac that you have to fix to drive home.......

LOUMO · Because HOMO was taken

OOO yeah just so you know I am gonna post cheap deals on race cars until you buy one......

I bought this car from a pelican member a while back on a whim. I have decided to move on to something else.

Its a great track car and its et up pretty well. Toss in a new seat and harnes and you are all set. The carpet has been removed. The paint is obviosly a cheap paint job..but it looks cool.

$1800

All the new parts under 1000 miles ago
New Koni adj sport struts/shocks
MO30 front sway bar
250 front springs
Stock rear sway bar
New sport clutch
New front rotors & pads
New rear brake pads
New SS brake hoses
New DME relay and crank pick ups

Updated to power steering
Roll bar
Racing seat (outdated)
5 point harness(outdated)
cookie cutter stock 7' wheels (not fuchs)

Need this thing to move asap, so please call Dave at 704-770-8035

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This car is in grassroots right now as the stuck on you car

For sale in Richmond VA:

1993 Nissan 240SX
KA24DE
5-Speed
White with black hood, roof and hatch
4 - 17 x 9 Cobra R Wheels with Hoosier 245/45/17 R6s
4 - 16 x 7 300ZX Wheel with Kumho 225/50/16 Victoracers
4 - 16 x 6.5 S14 Wheels with BF Goodrich 205/55/16 Traction T/A
5-lug conversion
Nismo extended stud bolts
Recent all metal radiator
Recent thermostat
JDM plastic/rubber front bumper skirt
Short Ram Cold Air Intake with Cone Air Filter
Centerforce Stage II Clutch
Viscous Limited Slip rear differential
Solid aluminum transmission mount
IMotoria exhaust (with optional silencer insert)
Front strut brace
Cusco adjustable camber plates
Battery relocated to passenger side rear
NGK 7.5mm Blue Spark Plug Wires
Recent NGK spark plugs
Recent distributor cap and rotor
Recent oxygen sensor
Recent water temperature sensor
Front Cusco Coilovers
Rear Tannabe Coilovers
Front Z32 TT brake upgrade (big aluminum calipers)
Rear Z32 TT brake upgrade
Stainless steel brake lines
Heads up display gauge cluster (big tach/small digital speedometer)
3-spoke deep dish steering wheel
JDM ultra low seat sliders / custom seat mount fabrication
Carpet removed
Rear seat removed
Rear half roll cage with permanent rear strut bar
OEM Passenger seat and sealt belts
No Radio
A/C removed

Spares
-New Clutch Kit
-Used 5-speed transmission (broken clutch fork)
-Interior door panels
-9 Nismo extended stud bolts
-OEM drivers seat
-Driver side seat belt assembly

Car has been competitive in the 2007 NASA Time trials.
This car has been proven on the following tracks this year:
-VIR Full Course
-VIR Patriot Course
-Summit Point Shenandoah Circuit
-Summit Point Main Course
-RoadAtlanta
-Carolina Motorsports Park
-Langley Speedway (autocross)
-Virginia Motorsports Park (autocross)

This is an excellent HPDE and Time Trials car. It is reliable, safe,
well-balanced and a blast to drive on track. It currently is registered
with a current inspection sticker - can be street driven, but it
is happiest on the track at speed.

PRICE: $4,500 takes car, all wheels and spares.

Contact James via email at: james@get-fast.net or 804-545-3415.

until tomorrow

Tito · Guru

A4+VR

That's my view on it. I have my doubts on the VR's bad reputation. Case in point?

This thread on Vortex, I started it, in hopes of finding what people do for demolishing miles of highway. Read what they have to say.

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3410453

It is surprising. I believe one poster on there went from Las Vegas to Philly, 3500 miles, non stop 32 hours, in a VR. Yea...that's unreliable. But anyways. Lets look at this from another view. And I hate to be the person to do this. But Jon, are you in school? Or planning on going to school? Is this something you really NEED to do right now? There is plenty of time left to do track days, not as if Sebring is going anywhere. Just think about that too. You say you need a safe car to get you around the city..well, after a few weeks in a gutted car, you might just be putting that carpet back in. I'll post more on it later if anybody is willing to hear my point. But I'll stop there for tonight.

Steve

-- Edited by Tito at 00:20, 2007-08-28

vwPanda · Member

You can dump that POS 1.8t motor at my house. I'll take it apart so the trash man can haul it away. Nobody will want to buy it. Its trash. Gimme.

Viet · POOP Bum

like i said before just ride out with the rx7 a little longer until you get out of college. then you'll hopefully have a better income to fund all this or you can get an entirely different car. i'm going to have to agree with lou on this one for once lol. You'll end up trying to fix things here and there while you miss out on what you were actually trying to do...which is race. Theres also a good chance your going to run out of funding on the project too because the total always comes up to being more then you originally thought. Plus you said you wanted to a safe car, but i don't think fixing a car with rear end damage is all too safe. if you wanna race just go get yourself a helmet and money and drive the rx7.

how much do vr6s go for these days? u make it sound like they are $500 a pop which is cheap for a motor but whens the last time u had $500 just to blow.

A4seen Racer · VP

VR6s are actually really cheap. Right now on vortex there are 2 for 300 another for 500 and then theres that wrecked corrado in orlando but I think Steve wants that. I am in school and I graduate next may. So the plan is that I'll get a good job that pays good and then I'll buy a racecar. I dont have much need for one right now. I wont be doing any road racing or track days until after I graduate. Maybe one more if I find someone else that needs an engine built but thats about it. oh yea I'm going to school for engineering which should explain why I want to build a car. I enjoy building something and then seeing it become what I had envisioned.
I think it will be an enjoyable process trying to make it as fast as possible in the cones. Even if the audi doesnt become as fast as I hope then i'll still be left with a fun daily driver.

tampa railroad hobo · Senior Member

Or you can buy my pos so i can have my driveway back. But for real, what's wrong with the rx-7?

I agree with the whole school thing. Finish school, bum for a little more while at home, build some income, and then you can drive all the f*ck you want.

Now I need to take my own advice..

-- Edited by tampa railroad hobo at 12:52, 2007-08-28

Tito · Guru

I think the A4 with the VR would be friggin sweet. And as some of you know, my thoughts on rotaries is they are ticking time bombs, and there is nothing you can do about it. My same thoughts on my G-Lader, which is why I want a VR, reliability myths aside.

I'm sure the RX is fun, and god dam they look good, but I think the Audi has more class, more character, and would be far more unique with a wacky engine under the hood, and probably(probably) more reliable. Keep it simple, don't go crazy pulling out the interior, putting a cage in it, or cutting things off of it, there is a time for that, and whilst living at home, going to school, that's not the time. Later on, with a place to call your own, that's when you can wrench till 6am on a car that needs to be ready to run at 8am that day, we, I believe as a whole, I don't know how old everyone is, but are young in the grand scheme of things. My dad, at 50 years old, JUST bought the car he's wanted since he was my age, and with the money to support it, and the time to work on it, he is loving every minute of it. Not stressing out that he didn't get the right part and the car isn't going to run to get him to work the next day. God I sound like my pops now too.

For me? Reliability>everything else. If I can't get to work, I can't make money, if I don't make money, I can't buy things for the bike/car. So what would be the point of having a volatile, sometimes-really-fast-until-it-breaks car, if you can't drive it places? I'll stop ranting, I talk too much occasionally. But this is something that took me a long time to figure out, this is why my Corrado drives me everywhere, with a/c, stereo, p/s and all that, and the bike is in 4 million pieces in the garage, because I can. That's something totally new to me, and it's effing sweet.

Steve

P.S. Jon if you want that Rado, grab it. I'm not in a super hurry, but I'll go halves on it if you let me get parts off of it, that is, after I get a hold of Lou and figure out whats good on it. But the engine is yours if you want.

-- Edited by Tito at 13:58, 2007-08-28

LOUMO · Because HOMO was taken

Hey Jon and steve, b4 you go wanting to get a VR6 why dont you both talk to my buddy chris who has had 3 motors and 1 built head........He doesnt have alot of mods and he will tell you owning a VR comes with a big price. Yeah mine could have made it to cali.......I am not sayin they cant cruise accross the country but i am sure they are stock or really stock like mine was(intake exhaust and cams) Jon wants a boosted VR?!?!?!?!?!?!Ok so run 12psi on a stock VR cause you can and then 6 months later you will need a nother one or that one rebuilt......Have fun with that, OOOO and when your VR AUDI is not at an auto x cause it is not running you can drive my car jon.

This is a really stupid Idea.........LEARN HOW TO BE A BETTER DRIVER THEN BUILD A CAR!!!!!!!!!!! I drive a slow honda and you know what i had fun and it was a great car at sebring......But remember all the work that we did to get it there cause it was a swapped car.

majorposer · howling machine of destruction

for a while i always thought to beat the next guy i needed a bunch of ****. and then i got into trackdays and autocross's and i realized that no one notices the car anymore, they only see the driver, what he can do and what he did. and at the end of the day he is recognized for that. you can build car, and be forgotten. i was, i had the beetle, and no one knew who i was. i've taken 5 trophies home from martin auto cross and my competitor hopes that i don't show up so that he can have a chance to win. it's a much better feeling to have a greater skill for driving and be recognized for that. instead of being the guy who drives that car.

turbocivic · Civic

i think viet, nam, and lucas pose a good point, but you should do whatever you wanna do though.

-- Edited by turbocivic at 10:31, 2007-08-29

A4seen Racer · VP

I see all your points entirely and its good to know that you guys dont want me to do something stupid. Well to what Lucas said, I dont care if no one knows who I am. It doesnt bother me the least. However, I'm the guy that sees the car and how it performs before seeing the driver. Even if the car isnt as fast as others because the driver has less skill but still is an excelent performing car in the hands of a better driver then I give that guy some credit. I feel as if I finally have a grasp of whats going on inside a racecar and I want to test my understanding. The supsension geometries, roll stiffness, damping ratios, power curves stuff like that( I am a nerd) and how to change all of that to suit the drivers feel. Keeping the Audi just gives me the ability to do that. It may not be as fast as I dream it will be but regardless I'll get some experience from it and have a fun daily driver after its done.

And as far as school. That comes first. I wouldnt do something that takes away from school or causes my grades to go down. I've been in school for 4 years so I know what I can handle on the side. Actually doing this stuff helps me pay attention better. This wouldnt be something I'd waste all my time on. In fact I set a generous goal of december for it to be running pretty good by.

majorposer · howling machine of destruction

I respectfully disagree, but its personal preference. One really can't argue against another about personal goals/opinions. You have great talent, dont waste the chance to learn/drive!

A4seen Racer · VP

I can see why you'd disagree. In fact I wouldnt even recommend it to anyone else. Its just what I want to do.

Viet · POOP Bum

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A4seen Racer · VP

I like the price cause my rx7 is in better shape and very similiar.