well i've been looking for another set of wheels since i've got a job. I don't plan to get them anytime soon because i'm going to get springs/shocks or a coilover setup first. Does anyone have any ideas of any light weight 15 x 7 and 4 x 100 lug wheels? They can look like **** for all i care. I perfer the cheapest and the lightest u can think of. I've seen these http://centerlinewheels.com/wheel_deals_detail.php?id=203&type=vehicle&data=30# on honda tech. I think there is a set of rotas that 15 x 7 but i think they are the wrong bolt pattern.
another thing i was looking for where a spring/strut comb or a coilover setup. What do you guys think I should get? i'd choose damping and rebound adjustibility over height adj. I was thinking about getting a set of koni yellows like everyone else, but then get a set of eibach springs, possible of a custom rate. if you guys have any recommendations show me some good reasoning as to why you think I should go with a particular setup.
Oh i'd also like to upgrade my brake setup so far i just got stock rotors and autozone lifetime warrenty brakepads. I was thinking about getting hawk pads, but they are an arm and a leg for them. I might settle for axxis metal masters, idon't know though. Anyone have any suggestions on this? should i also invest in better brake lines? ss? how about bigger brake callipers? or is that not really neccessary?
I remember seeing some really cheap wheels at that Wheelhouse place on 60. Probably heavy but they're cheap, definatley under a Ben. The spring shock deal is a tough call. There's got to be a bunch of different shocks you can get since its a Honda. I looked at those shock dynos and its looks like the best ones are the Tein's, Ground Control, Zeal's or Koni's. Thats just what I thought from the dynos, other than that I have no idea. But if you decide to go with height adjustability, you'll be able to adjust your camber too by changing the height.
And for the brakes, since you dont have ABS I would say your best way to stop better would be to just go out and practice locking the brakes up. You know try and keep it right on the threshold between sliding and rolling. After you perfect that, then I would say pads would be next and then maybe new lines but thats proably all you need since you won't get much brake fade unless we start doing some track events.
The zeal are expensive and so are the teins. I think they are both over the 1k range. It'll probably take me a while to get them. If i were to get the koni's I would go for the ground control slip on coilovers. That setup would cost me about 1k. I've also heard that ground control has made their own full coilover, but i can't find it. I'm going to look into tanabe's stuff and see if they are any good. So far they are hardly ever mentioned. Or I might just go with the omnipower coilovers which are around $700. I think within a few months some magazine is suppose to get some dynos on the omni's.
This is a tough call for us non-honda people. I say you need to just do your research. Go to honda-tech and just read. then go to the places and see how much the crap is. All i can say is that i like my koni yellows. It would be pretty sweet to have rebound and dampening adjustability. Ride height would be cool, but i doubt it would help a whole lot. the camber thing would be cool for the ride height though since you have decent susp.
those wheels are hideous. just get some rotas or something, they're cheap and pretty light.
do you have 4 wheel discs? i'd say good pads and maybe some ss lines if you ever start using the car for more than just a daily driver......
yeah they are ugly but they are going to be track only type wheels so i'm just looking for lightweight and cheap price. I was thinking that they are around 12lbs since the 17's are about 15lbs. I dont think rota has a good priced 15 X 7 that are in my bolt pattern. I'll have to look more into it. Might have to dish out for expensive good looking daily driver wheels instead.
I'm hearing a lot of good things about the omnipower setup and the koni w/ gc. I might end up getting the omni ones since they are cheaper. The omnipower one are kind of new so I can't tell if all the stuff i'm hearing is all hype or good opinions. I was tempted with going with JIC coilovers, but found out that they were trash. A set of Zeals would be cool but that is alot of money. So i'mdebating between the omnipower and koni w/gc.
i've decided to go with a the omnipower coilovers because they are cheaper and have heard some good stuff about them. Though they are not adjustable it will probably be more then i need.
After the coilovers I'm still debating on what to get. rods & pistons w/ a 3bar map sensor? Intercooler and better intercooler piping? Wheels & tires? Gauges? I honestly don't know, but I'm leaning towards the pistons and rods.
anyone has any good suggestions as to what i should get after the coilovers? If anyones got any ideas please have an explination as to why i should get them. Oh and not bs like get a body kit and spoiler so you can look cool or paint it flat black u'll be the coolest kid around the block. for ppl that don't know what mods i have heres a little list of the important stuff:
Power mods: Turbo and all the ish that goes with it 2" intercooler piping VW sidemount intercooler
It's defiantely a nice build. I loved the nice CNC machined parts. Plus they also used the laminova tubes which I've been dying to find an intercooler using them.
Would you guys get this over a PWR or SPEARCO A/W intercooler?
holy **** dude, that is one of the nicest car parts i've ever seen. that thing is immaculate.....the machined parts are sweet. thats cool that its servicable, you can completely disassemble it and dump out that gallon of oil you'll have in it. wow, definately get that.
"IC can be mounted in the stock 1.8T IC location" it will work in your car
but that is one nice piece there. I really like those cores. especially how the water flow through them. I think that should definatley be before pistons and rods but suspension first.
#1 being suspension is good. i dont think you'd need 2.5" or 3" charge piping. do you? also, i would feel much better if you went with SS oil lines with a restrictor rather than your copper line with a kink.........
well if I go with pistons and rods later why not get bigger? I think i'm going to try that smaller piping before the intercooler then larger after and see how that is. I'll porbably isn't going to make a differnece.
Yeah i really think i need SS oil lines with a restrictor because i'm getting tired of replacing that compression fitting everytime.....oh by the way i need to replace there is a small leak coming from there. My bro said he might get it for me i don't know.
I'd love to try one of the a/w intercoolers the MR2 guy had. I think i'm going to try to follow up on that and look at what is needed to do it. Then maybe i'll have a porject setup for simfab. to bad i sold my water pump . Then again the ones with tube cores are pretty bad ass.
Oh i got a question whats the differnece in compounds in brake pads? like semi-metalic and all that bs?
well as far as the smaller to bigger I/C piping, I dont understand it. maybe I'll use all that crap I learned in school and figure it out after my calc test anyways.
I've got some of your compressions of you want to throw another one in there. You should really keep them in your car. I didnt give them back did I? a SS feed line I think is a really good idea.
It would be pretty sweet if you tried the DIY a/w intercooler. I'm in for that. Of course that ebay one is really nice too but alot of money. We should tap into your intake air temp sensor and so we can do tests on which is best or how good its working now. Actually your uberdata can datalog that. So you really need to get your datalogging working. Oh yea send me that map that your running. I want to take a look at it.
For the brakes, I busted out that old Grassroots Motorsports and read the part on clutch materials which is about the same. Organic is refered to as being bonded together with organic materials. It doesnt have a real high heat capacity and a medium coeficient of friction. Kevlar has less heat capacity and a lower coeficient of friction but will last a very long time. Metallic has a high coefictent of friction and a high heat capacity and specific heat so it can disperse heat real good but is hard on flywheels or rotors. So semi-metallic seems to be a mix of the good stuff like organic and metallic.
I'd like to to be able to collect data on air temps before and after the intercooler and find out which intercooler is the most benficial. Then again that would mean i would need more then one intercooler.
I think i'm going to just order a SS feed. its just a small leak anyways. I think i can hold out for a week or two.
Yeah I'm just going to research on the intercooler stuff and piping deal. I'll decide whenever I get to that stage. Which intercooler would u think would be better the DIY one or that ebay one (thats assuming we do a professional job on the DIY one)?
ok for the piping thing. Bust out your ideal gas law equation. PV=nRT (Pressure * Volume = mole number(amount of gas) * R (some stupid constant) * Temperature). Now lets take an example say a half meter section of pipe has diameter of 2 inches which is .0508 meters. So that pipe has a volume of (pi(.0508/2)^2(.5))= 0.0010134 m^3 and pressure of 10psi which converts to 68,947 Pascals. And lets say that this section of pipe is after the turbo so the air is hot umm about 240 F to be exact. Now this gotta go to Kelvin so its 389K. So thats everything you need and you can solve for n. So you get (68947*.001034=n(8.314)389) n = .02160. If the air then goes through the intercooler and the intercooler is working good then it cools it down to 90 F (305K). Now if this same amount of air (.02160 mols) is on the other side of the intercooler it will have a volume of ((.02160*8.314*305K)/68947) = .0007945 m^3 which is smaller than .0010134 m^3. This is assuming the pressure is the same for both sides which wont be the case. Most likely the pressure and the volume will both drop some. And of course this is a very general example because the air is flowing. There are many more factors with flowing air that I have no clue about but this shows that the volume does get smaller after beeing cooled and you can kinda get the pipe sizes right. Like you would want a 1.77inch pipe after your intercooler if you started with the 2inch pipe and your intercooler worked that good but its at least an approximation.
dang Im a loser but school is easier if find a use for it
hmmm but i find peope putting the smaller diameter piping after the turbo and larger one after the intercooler. That was a good effort but still doesn't explain what i'm looking for.
You do NOT want 2.5" or bigger. 2" to IC 2.25" out or 2.25" to IC and 2.5" out are the usual setups.
out of curiousity, what is the reason (one based on facts/data please ) for having the outlet pipe be bigger? it would seem to me that the air will get cooler, which will make the air more dense. Now this is where i could be wrong and please correct me if i am, because the air is more dense, the air parcel we are measuring must have shrunk in size, since more air was not added. Now if the size of the pipe that exits the IC is larger than the size of the inlet pipe, we essentially have to put more air into the outlet pipe to keep the same pressure inside. Since we are not adding more air for one and we are condensing the air also. Wont we feel a pressure drop, wont we feel a pressure drop because the air is more dense thus not maintaining the same velocity in the pipe? or because the air expands in the pipe, energy is lost, therefore heat is lost, and the air actually becomes cooler, so a larger pipe is a necessity? some physics proffessor please enlighten me
For a stock turbo I think 2" /2.25" is the way to go. The idea is to go as small as possible without creating areas around curves where the airflow goes supersonic. Maximum Boost by Corky Bell has a section on how to calculate this. I'm too lazy to do it for a stock turbo, but I remember when I was calculating the size for my 500hp project that 2.5" was large enough.
A technical reason to go 2" into the intercooler and 2.5" out MAY be that then you don;t have a large size transition at the throttlebody. I think I would only do this if the distance from the intercooler outlet to the TB was pretty short.
i dunno, no real answers yet.....seems most people run larger outlet pipes though
I'll have to concur about the possibilty for the air to expand and become less dense losing some heat and the air becoming more dense and losing velocity so a larger pipe would compensate for that by adding volume. If you think about exhaust, you want the gas to stay hot so the density stays low and the velocity stays high so I guess if you want the gas to stay cold you've got to increase the volume to keep the same density. Im still not convinced on this yet but theres some good points you made.
I think I might get that Maximum Boost book. Ive still got that Borders gift card
I think i've decided on what im going to go with for the main suspension stuff. koni yellows & ground controls or H&R race. now i gotta find a good deal on them.